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  • Mandelbulb 3D Explorations

    I've been taking things a lot slower musically and in my downtime, I have discovered mandelbulb 3D. I have really enjoyed getting lost in these infinite little worlds and messing around with the colors. I really have no idea how any of the parameters work together but, like a synthesizer, I love tinkering with the "knobs and buttons" in this program. Below are a few snapshots I have taken on my travels:

    Also here is my first animation.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JfbVPH0LKI

    I did not expect rendering to take nearly as long as it did. 28 hours and some change. So while working on my second, I took a little more time to get a proper flight path with some interesting colors.

  • #2
    Some really awesome fractal art! I have been looking for something like this. I have been using Ultra Fractal 5 for a few years, but it produces NOTHING like this!
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    • #3
      This is some really great stuff! I'm not familiar with the program but use jwildfire for my fractals. Is this somewhat similar?
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      • #4
        Looks very cool! I think I will give it a try. 28 hour rendering time for 1 minute is a bit daunting, but maybe if I reduced the video quality I could speed it up.
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        • #5
          Thanks guys!
          S1gns, I am not familiar with JWildfire but a Google search landed me on their page and looking through the flames and animations, this seems to be a really neat fractal generator. I don't know how it operates but would love to try it out.

          Mandelbulb 3D, from what I can gather, adds a Z axis to the 2D (X,Y) Mandelbrot models. The math is completely alien to me. I generally start with the presets, maybe mixing 2 or 3 formulas and adjusting individual parameters slightly. Making too large of a change will really make the image go wild.

          Immorpher, I think the render time has to do a lot with the math, because what is happening when you create an animation is you set several key frames and Mandelbulb 3D is linking all of the frames in between, mapping the parameter of each frame and rendering an image of each one. (You have to "glue" the frames together in a separate program. I.e. After Effects) As you go deeper and deeper, I assume, the math gets more and more intricate and the image is harder to render. For this first animation I went several layers into the object. TheAt the beginning of the animation each frame rendered at 10 sec. By the time it got to the end each frame was rendered at 1 min 45 sec. The second animation, which I will upload tomorrow, I went not so deep and I upped the quality. Render time was cut in half at 14 hours.
          (Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this and there is a better way to go deeper and shorten the render time)

          Sonic, glad you enjoy these images! Hope you dont mind I used an excerpt from your track in the animation. One day I will have the nerve to make a soundtrack to an animation or an animation to a soundtrack. Right now I'm just playing around though. you should dive into this program!

          I should say this program was created by one of the guys on this forum where you can find tons of info on the program and fractals in general:
          http://www.fractalforums.com/

          A great source of info!

          Happy fractaling!
          Last edited by X3+us; 05-15-2019, 10:39 PM.

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          • #6
            Here is the second animation. Enjoy!


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX7S-swGgwY

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            • #7
              Originally posted by S1gnsOfL1fe View Post
              This is some really great stuff! I'm not familiar with the program but use jwildfire for my fractals. Is this somewhat similar?
              So I downloaded JWildfire today and had a play around with it. This program can make some neat visuals!! Here is my first experiment with JWildfire and further experimentation in Adobe After Effects. The short 4 second clip works nicely on a loop that I plan on using in what will eventually be my first music video

              https://youtu.be/qpirl-2JrGM

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              • #8
                This looks great! Some years ago I did some stills and animations with Apophysis 3D, but the Mandelbulb 3D output is different, it is "real" 3D. Apophysis 3D produces mere fake 3D (more like 2.5 D), but still nice visuals... I made a video for one of my tracks with it:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dp9UCL3Qh8

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                • #9
                  You are right. Very neat visuals. That program seems to manipulate coloring and movement to achieve its 3D effect. Neato video

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by X3+us View Post
                    This program can make some neat visuals!!
                    Yes, I agree, and I, too, started out with JWildfire. I also tried Apophysis, but once I discovered Chaotica, that was it for me... I find Chaotica much easier to create flame fractal animations with.

                    Each time I try Mandelbulb I struggle to get into it, so I have stopped bothering with it now, unfortunately.
                    I may not post anything useful, but at least I do it often

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                    • #11
                      Hey Synkrotron and welcome back!

                      I will have to try those 2 programs. Both JWildfire and Mandelbulb 3D are incredibly complex and intimidating. I mainly play around with the parameters of presets and take a stroll through the object in the navigator snapping pics along the way. But I particularly enjoy the random flame generator on JWildfire. It gives me a good starting point that isnt the same everytime as with presets. I havent gone completely in depth with JWildfire yet, but I've already made some neato animation loops And look forward to making more.

                      I've begun piecing together some fractal animations and video clips into a longer video. So far I've got about 2.5 min of footage. Still a long way from done, but I will post here when done

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                      • #12
                        I just got hold of mandelbulb 3D and am having a lot of fun with it! I haven't tweaked any parameters for original images yet, but am still exploring it. When I get a chance I will upload some photos of what I have done here.. in the meantime, here are a couple of music art covers I've used it in. Version 1.9.9.33.



                        https://metapop.com/sonic-bodhi
                        https://www.youtube.com/user/SonicBodhi1
                        https://sonicbodhi.bandcamp.com/
                        https://hearthis.at/sonic-bodhi-iw/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by X3+us View Post
                          Thanks guys!

                          Sonic, glad you enjoy these images! Hope you dont mind I used an excerpt from your track in the animation. One day I will have the nerve to make a soundtrack to an animation or an animation to a soundtrack. Right now I'm just playing around though. you should dive into this program!

                          Happy fractaling!
                          Nope I'm flattered that you used one of my pieces on a well-done video.. must have taken at least a couple of days to render this.. the images I used in my album covers were saved from still-rendering fractals using the Monte-Carlo rendering engine. When finished, the amount of detail in the images is incredible.

                          Unfortunately, though, fractalforums.com is now defunct, but there is a newer forum that it points to.

                          The link where one can download Mandelbulb 3D for free:

                          https://www.mandelbulb.com/

                          Thank you again for turning me on to this!
                          Last edited by Sonic Bodhi; 06-27-2020, 12:11 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Hey Sonic Bodhi, Nice images! Glad you started using Mandelbulb 3D. I need to get my computer running again to try to make some more fractals. I loved how immense this program is.

                            Also glad you posted here over the weekend. I've been thinking that it is high time I get back into making ambient music after a long break, and your post kind of gave me that push to log back into my AO account.

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                            • #15
                              X3+us There is another version of the program called 'Mandelbulber' written by the same guy that's designed specifically for Windows users. I have that installed to, but I like all the parameter options in the original program. Plus there's a TON of parameters published on the internet for really cool looking images. I've got another track set to come out later this week which will have a new Mandelbulb image as well..

                              Glad you are getting 'back in the saddle'! Can't wait to see the new stuff.
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                              https://sonicbodhi.bandcamp.com/
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