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  • #16
    Originally posted by seismic1 View Post
    I've been building up some nice layered guitar sounds using hardware and sending the audio from an outboard processor. I have a Zoom G7.1ut for this. It works well with Cubase elements. I can then save the captured audio and import into EnergyXT or process in Audacity.
    I have a Zoom G2 that I picked up purely for practice/headphone etc use but was surprised you could have three delay/reverb effects simultaneously because of how many modules it has. Pair this with the 'slow gear'/slow attack module in the comp section and you're in drone/ambient heaven.
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    • #17
      Since I just recently picked up fretless bass and have my electric violin in playable shape, I've been getting to know my way around Guitar Rig. It's a whole different world than dealing with effects for synths -- just dealing with gain and dynamics is a whole different beast. I like almost none of the presets, so I've been building my own.

      I haven't really even begun to explore some of my other effects with the bass yet, aside from the Valhalla reverbs.


      I'm eager to see how my electric kazoo fares with Guitar Rig.

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      • #18
        Just noticed this thread - guitar-based drones are definitely my 'thing':

        http://soundcloud.com/mikusan/cloudpioneering


        This track is composed entirely from about five or six layers of heavily-effected guitar.

        Unfortunately, my amp sim of choice is usually Line6 PodFarm, so I can't help you (S1gns) with any patches. (If anyone else is interested, I can send them the .l6t files) But the amp/cab setup for this kind of thing is nothing special - although it seems to turn out better if you start out with a fairly clean tone. I usually use a 'slow gear' type effect for starters - or a volume 'swell' pedal, anything which draws out the attack. Reverse delay is obviously good for this too, or of course an E-bow. If you can chain fx in Guitar Rig, that too is an excellent way of building tones unrecognisable as guitar - even better if you can split your signal and process left and right channels separately.

        Chain together multiple delays, each with different delay length/number of repeats (tempo-locked or not, or a mixture of both). Definitely modulate the delayed signals with a phaser or flanger (or both) to 'blur' the repeats - or use a wah pedal to modulate the delay output, this will avoid the cyclic nature of most modulation fx. You can accentuate the modulation by following it up with a distortion/overdrive pedal. Chorus is another modulation possibility, but if you're going to use multiple layers of guitar-based drones, I find that chorus can make a sound poke through a mix so a light touch is needed with it. Most other fx, you can be as un-subtle as you like

        The reverbs in PodFarm are OK for regular guitar parts, but this type of thing sounds better with a more capable reverb, so I plug in something like ValhallaRoom or UberMod (or both :D)

        For a more 'blissed-out', shoegazey drone (think My Bloody Valentine) - in the studio (or live), this sound is created by sheer, eardrum-piercing volume...but it can be approximated by chaining together several distortion and compression units (extreme compression settings - high ratio with a very slow attack to get that 'bloom' of volume) and finishing up with some plate reverb. I haven't used this one in a track myself yet, but the idea of using a drone created from raging noise in an ambient setting appeals to me ;)

        Hope all this helps, I'll be interested to hear the results of your latest expedition
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        • #19
          Originally posted by mikusan View Post
          For a more 'blissed-out', shoegazey drone (think My Bloody Valentine) - in the studio (or live), this sound is created by sheer, eardrum-piercing volume...but it can be approximated by chaining together several distortion and compression units (extreme compression settings - high ratio with a very slow attack to get that 'bloom' of volume) and finishing up with some plate reverb.
          I like the filter plugin ZapFilter^2 for a similar thing. I set the first filter to a lowpass or bandpass with a pretty high resonance, crank the gain WAY up into the saturator, and then set the second filter to lowpass a bit lower frequency than the first. Some lovely, dirty but rounded, sound there.

          Ohmicide is also a pretty amazing distortion plugin. You can get lovely feedback going within it.

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          • #20
            Oh! I just remembered a youtube channel that I am subscribed to.
            He deals almost entirely with hardware, but the same principle should apply to software as well. I think?
            Anyways, the channel might give you some ideas on how you can chain your fx in guitar rig. He even gives some tips on how you can play, chord progression and things like that.

            http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnXjoRC-GABh-aRYogZ7ayQ
            http://www.soundcloud.com/tarmskrap

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            • #21
              Ordered my Ebow Plus today! :biggrin:

              Can't wait to start letting loose on it and make some new tracks. :tu:

              Cheers everyone!

              -S1gns
              S1gns Of L1fe
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              • #22
                I didn't realize there was a plus edition. I've been wanting to use my guitars in an ambient piece, and want to get an ebow too. I'll be sure to order the plus version.

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                • #23
                  I think now all new ones are plus, if I am not mistaken. (called PlusEbow..say it slowly...)

                  to tell: there is a switch on the front to go from regular mode to harmonic as well as a blue LED.

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                  • #24
                    Yes, they are all "plus" nowadays, and yes you have to say it slowly. ;)

                    The blue led is also what makes it look way cool!
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                    • #25
                      Here we go!

                      Found this via Twitter tonight. Just posted...but well worth the watch. I have seen the light, or the drone, whichever. If you're are interested in this topic, watch this video! :hypnotized:

                      S1gns Of L1fe
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                      • #26
                        for drones on string instruments i think acoustic feedback rules. you need to be somewhere that you can make some loud noises though! just set all your gain stages high and sit or stand right in front of the amp...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CrystalWizard View Post
                          for drones on string instruments i think acoustic feedback rules. you need to be somewhere that you can make some loud noises though! just set all your gain stages high and sit or stand right in front of the amp...
                          Have to agree with this post. If you can arrange it then there's nothing like the tactile, well, feedback you get from physically interacting with the sound (swaying back and forth, changing the angle of the guitar etc etc).
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by GaryG View Post
                            Originally posted by CrystalWizard View Post
                            for drones on string instruments i think acoustic feedback rules. you need to be somewhere that you can make some loud noises though! just set all your gain stages high and sit or stand right in front of the amp...
                            Have to agree with this post. If you can arrange it then there's nothing like the tactile, well, feedback you get from physically interacting with the sound (swaying back and forth, changing the angle of the guitar etc etc).
                            If I could play at that sort of volume on a regular basis I'd do it too. I thought about investing in a monitor wedge so that I can use the output of my mixer after going through an amp emu so that I don't need to start investing in quality amps and large cabs (which I don't have the room for really).

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                            • #29
                              Guitar rig is pretty much awesome for the ambient stuff. I use it all the time...


                              http://soundcloud.com/themonkbythesea/space-chorale


                              guitar rig + Ebow

                              http://soundcloud.com/zeitfaktor/way-to-sky?in=zeitfaktor/sets/iohannes-zeitfaktor



                              Last edited by Iohannes; 10-15-2014, 07:43 AM.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Iohannes View Post
                                Guitar rig is pretty much awesome for ambient stuff. I use it all the time...


                                https://soundcloud.com/iohannes/jbtr.../sets/epclouds

                                guitar rig + Ebow

                                https://soundcloud.com/iohannes/way-to-sky-sketch
                                Wow man, this is some gorgeous stuff! Very inspiring indeed.

                                And by the way, welcome to ambient online! Looking forward hearing more of your music and reading your posts...

                                Cheers,
                                -S1gns
                                S1gns Of L1fe
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