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    i must say i'm not well equipped when it comes to speakers and i plan to change this.

    what do you use, what would you recommend for mixing?

    currently i'm on headphones but that results in headphone-friendly mixes that do not sound well on speakers.

    what are your suggestions?
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  • #2
    Well, in my experience I do a full mix using the Mackie 824 monitors THEN check through the headphones. You can pick up some second hand monitors on ebay or whatever for reasonable prices these days but you will also want to think about diffusion panels.
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    • #3
      ... diffusion panels!

      there are a guitar and a vibraphone in my room that add their resonances to everything spoken or played ... things seem to become more complicated than i initially thought of :whiteflag:
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      • #4
        You could look into IK Multimedia's ARC 2 http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/ it claims to make a radical difference to both treated and untreated rooms although I haven't personally used it.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Negative Spectrum View Post
          You could look into IK Multimedia's ARC 2 http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/ it claims to make a radical difference to both treated and untreated rooms although I haven't personally used it.
          That's a good suggestion. Ambient Indigo and I did a test earlier in the year on his software and we both concluded the product DOES do something...we're still not sure what though! ;)
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          • #6
            I think if your room are not good audio prepared you can use your monitors only as 2nd mixing device. And the good monitoring headphones like Sennheiser 650 as first (which are not expensive as good monitors)
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            • #7
              Originally posted by S1gnsOfL1fe View Post
              Originally posted by Negative Spectrum View Post
              You could look into IK Multimedia's ARC 2 http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/arc/ it claims to make a radical difference to both treated and untreated rooms although I haven't personally used it.
              That's a good suggestion. Ambient Indigo and I did a test earlier in the year on his software and we both concluded the product DOES do something...we're still not sure what though! ;)
              maybe it does something like described here http://www.g-sonique.com/msx5headphonemonitoring.html ?
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              • #8
                Well. I went ahead and bought it so, when it arrives I will post my results.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ahornberg View Post
                  i must say i'm not well equipped when it comes to speakers and i plan to change this.

                  what do you use, what would you recommend for mixing?

                  currently i'm on headphones but that results in headphone-friendly mixes that do not sound well on speakers.

                  what are your suggestions?
                  I am not very good at final mixes but I improved when I bought better headphones and then later better monitors. I now use Beyerdynamic dt250 headphones and Adam A7 monitors. The Adam's made a huge difference to me - really one of the best musical purchases I have ever made.

                  The other thing is that you can't hear and control bass/sub-bass much with the sorts of systems we tend to have. Might as well just cut everything below 50Hz.
                  Last edited by GregH; 12-12-2014, 01:23 PM.
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                  • #10
                    You can get a 12 pack of acoustic paneling from acoustimac.com for $90, and then another $40 in lumber and screws (most hardware stores will cut to your spec for free, too), and you've got yourself some cheap and very effective room treatment there is a 6-pack, too.

                    Or they even sell kits if you don't want to assemble frames:
                    http://www.acoustimac.com/acoustic-i...ls/diy-kits-1/
                    Last edited by KrisM; 12-12-2014, 03:32 PM.
                    Meh.

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                    • #11
                      I'm mixing mostly through a pair of Sennheiser HD280 Pro headphones. My monitors are Monitor Audio S2's, A/B'ing the S2's with a decent pair of larger Technics and smaller pair Monitor Audio Radius 90's.

                      Then I burn a disc and carry it with me and play it in every car I ride in.

                      My thinking is that I am using speakers that are fairly common grade, but decent enough to reveal some quality. I did not choose the speakers specifically for mixing though, and am sure some of my mixing difficulties is that my speakers are not truly transparent as ones built for a studio environment.

                      Disclaimer: the advice given before (and possibly after) this post is much better.
                      Last edited by aoVI; 12-12-2014, 09:17 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Shocking as this sounds (or not if you listen to my music!) I have bog-standard speakers - the left hand speaker has a habit of fuzzing out from time to time. Haven't got any headphones. When I can afford it, maybe sometime next year, I'll invest in a decent pair of speakers and some headphones. Until then it's down to more luck than judgement probably. I mix as best as I can with what I've got and, I think, by and large it turns out okay. Most of the time.
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                        • #13
                          would you say that if you know how something should sound on particular speakers or headphones ... hm, the built in speakers at my laptop have definetly no bass at all ... maybe the wisdom lies in between some high level monitors and some cheap monophonic clock-radio ... but it should sound "good" on the clock-radio too !?!
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                          • #14
                            Ideally, you want your mix to sound good on every system you listen to it on but of course, that won't always be the case. I mean, the speaker in a clock radio is not designed to handle low bass frequencies but I get your point.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ahornberg View Post
                              would you say that if you know how something should sound on particular speakers or headphones ... hm, the built in speakers at my laptop have definetly no bass at all ... maybe the wisdom lies in between some high level monitors and some cheap monophonic clock-radio ... but it should sound "good" on the clock-radio too !?!
                              Do you get a lot of people listening on cheap monophonic clock radios? If not, why care? People produce different mixes for different systems, but unless you have a big audience listening across varied settings there is little point worrying too much about it. i'll never get played in a club, there is no point me mixing for a club. On the rare occasions I've played in a concert hall I've mixed for the hall.
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