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    Exploring different pitchbending techniques on multitracked guitar - basically a piece for 4 guitars but I play them all in what is pretty much a live recording



    Last edited by GregH; 08-13-2017, 05:04 AM.
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    I wouldn't mind some help knowing what genre this fits into - I really don't follow much written material aboutmusic at all so have little idea where a piece like this fits in
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    • #3
      That's great, really like how the parts are so integrated, feels like one piece.

      Not sure about genre, I'd just call it Experimental from a SC point of view, sounds like it was a created with a genuinely experimental/exploratory method.
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      • #4
        I like that. It has lots of movement in it which always keeps me interested. I sometimes think people get too hung up on what genre a piece fits into. Either you like it or you don't. I'd go with GaryG and Experimental. That's what you set out to achieve with it.
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        • #5
          thanks GaryG and BassBus for the listen and suggesting "Experimental" as genre. I have steered away from Experimental as a tag (and have tended to use "exploratory" - or even "gentle" instead of "ambient" ), perhaps because of my science background and also because my stuff tends to be fairly pre-composed at least as far as having a clear idea of process and how that will constrain the final result. But thinking about it now ... I'm no longer a scientist so ... why not!

          this piece uses a process I have used since the late 70s - one performer plays something according to instructions/score, one pass only, then that is given to another performer who has to try and follow/copy it, one pass as they hear it for the first time, then to another performer etc etc. For this piece each time I had to play along I used a different string bending technique and started from a different string/fret with radical random detuning of the string.
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          • #6
            Re: "Experimental" - Someone (may have been the Flaming Lips Wayne Coyle) said once they didn't like the term Experimental as it was kind of an insult to scientists and the scientific method when, to be honest, when musicians "experiment" they're really just "dicking around".
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            • #7
              Originally posted by GaryG View Post
              Re: "Experimental" - Someone (may have been the Flaming Lips Wayne Coyle) said once they didn't like the term Experimental as it was kind of an insult to scientists and the scientific method when, to be honest, when musicians "experiment" they're really just "dicking around".
              ha ha - yeah there is a huge difference between what artists do and what scientists do. I had a few years as a scientist, which I enjoyed a lot, but circumstances put paid to that career unfortunately and I had to get an academic job teaching IT, which was totally outside my area and interests. High end university but boring "beyond all reason"" ;)
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              • #8
                Cool, i like it. I don't think it has a genre ,as even Neil Young has recorded similar styles
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                • #9
                  Hiya GregH

                  So, this is a layered piece of four separate guitar tracks, each played "live" and then mixed together?

                  Can I ask, was each part played without hearing the other parts as "inspiration?"

                  Or did you play each part in isolation to the others?

                  Nice piece anyway... held me to the end


                  cheers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by synkrotron View Post
                    Hiya GregH

                    So, this is a layered piece of four separate guitar tracks, each played "live" and then mixed together?

                    Can I ask, was each part played without hearing the other parts as "inspiration?"

                    Or did you play each part in isolation to the others?

                    Nice piece anyway... held me to the end


                    cheers

                    andy
                    thanks andy, played listening to the previous track - I described the method earlier ......." this piece uses a process I have used since the late 70s - one performer plays something according to instructions/score, one pass only, then that is given to another performer who has to try and follow/copy it, one pass as they hear it for the first time, then to another performer etc etc. For this piece each time I had to play along I used a different string bending technique and started from a different string/fret with radical random detuning of the string."
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                    • #11
                      Ah, thanks GregH , as you may have guessed, I haven't read all of your responses to each of the posts here.

                      Apologies
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dwinceffyl View Post
                        Cool, i like it. I don't think it has a genre ,as even Neil Young has recorded similar styles
                        thanks dwinceffyl - Neil Young is not a comparison I had thought of ! But a good one
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                        • #13
                          Is that the Jackson/Sustainiac? It sounded great here, a little like Froese's Modded SHS Telecaster on Ricochet
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seismic1 View Post
                            Is that the Jackson/Sustainiac? It sounded great here, a little like Froese's Modded SHS Telecaster on Ricochet
                            thanks seismic1 - yeah that is the Jackson Sustainiac - such a wonderfull guitar.which is no longer made unfortunately. Apparently Schecter have some models now between $1K and $2K. I would definitely get one as a first guitar if I had to start again. I've used two guitars over the last 20 years or so - the Jackson (not sure when I got that) and a 1987 G&L skyhawk - which is another good guitar and way underpricd on the second hand market. Incredible clear sound - is great for prepared guitar.
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                            • #15
                              I'm with the other comments above...love the layering. And the composition technique is very interesting! Furthermore I am really appreciating the 'ode-to-darkness' vibe. I am in the mood now to go dredge up some of my own darkness...
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