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  • Echo Chamber - Reflecting Dawn

    Hey guys,

    started a new projekt with a good friend, who's mainly into guitar playing but likes to experiment as well. So he created the main part with the guitar and the solo in the second half and I added some keys over it... I am curious what you think? It's certainly not perfect but I like the atmosphere! Still, any comment on possible improvements (especially soundwise) are really appreciated!

    There you go:

    https://soundcloud.com/user-688194088/reflecting-dawn

  • #2
    Very good jam! I really like how the intro builds up and leads into the main part of the track. I think the synth in the intro is panned way too far left, kinda feels unbalanced without anything happening in the right channel. I don't mind the panning later on since you have keyboard parts on both channels. I'm not strong in music theory, but some parts sound out of key or dissonant like at 1:30 or 2:00. Then again, a little dissonance can be interesting... Anyway fantastic playing on the keys and guitar! Overall, great track and thanks for sharing! I've followed you on soundcloud.
    Last edited by dreamware; 02-08-2019, 04:47 PM.
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    • #3
      On first listen this intro pad is the only thing that I noticed as something that, I would say needs to be corrected. It's beautiful pad and sounds really good, you just need to balance it a bit to the right. You might also try to write some panning automation, for that intro pad, to make it go from left to right channel. Of course, I don't mean pan it hard left and right but you might try 30 to 50%. I think this will sound interesting and will give the sound some movement. If you want to go crazy you can even try writing automation for that tapping sound too, just the opposite of the pad automation. Song in general is very good, I like it. You both played it very well and creative. I would like to hear some more music from you so you get one more follower

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      • #4
        I love this kind of 'stream of consciousness' stuff- reminds me of the jazz fusion music that came out of the seventies- puts me in mind specifically of Chick Corea and Return To Forever.. The guitar is reminiscent of Carlos Santana's style in spots... there is a spot where the scale played on the guitar did not quite match the rest of it- I notice this as a guitarist myself for over thirty years.. he pulls it back into key pretty quickly, so it's probably not that noticeable to others who don't play guitar, but overall, this is a pretty impressive effort- I wish more younger musicians would get back into the mindset of the jazz fusion players..there was a lot of great music that came out of that era that seems to have been left behind, and it could still be expanded on, especially in this day and age.. Would love to hear more of this from you! btw, love the photo you chose for the music artwork. This song needs to be a lot longer, imo.. it's pretty ambitious but seems like it should build into an album-length piece. Can't wait to hear what you do next..
        https://metapop.com/sonic-bodhi
        https://www.youtube.com/user/SonicBodhi1
        https://sonicbodhi.bandcamp.com/
        https://hearthis.at/sonic-bodhi-iw/

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        • #5
          Thanks to all of you, glad you like it!

          eah I know the piano, and the intro, is unbalanced. I recorded it in stereo but with only on channel switched on. I realized that only later and I couldn't figure out how to put it on the other side... which can't be impossible given all the things you can do with your sounds in a DAW. It's probably just two clicks or something. I then didn't find it too bad somehow. For me it's more the shifted piano in the main section which is more problematic. I would pan it one side maybe, but leave it also a bit on the other. That's why I put the two Rhodes layers more on the right. Actually, they're panning from the left to the right in the first half of the main part. The intro is actually one note of the piano section, reversed and timestretched. That's why it's also only on one side.

          The keys are all improvised. So it's sometimes that some unexpected note may enter but you know how it is, while working on the song you listen to it again and again and then it becomes somehow part of the song. I also like some dissonances from time to time. Actually, I also find it not too bad if some percussion is a bit out of time. If it's still grooving... can add to the character of a song.

          To the jazz fusion thing... I love that stuff. I'm a huge Santana fan, especially of that jazz rock phase of his (my favourite album is Caravanserai). I'm also into chick Corea, Mahavishnu Orchestra and all that stuff. I agree, some great music from that period! Also listened to a lot of Steely Dan the last months. To live in the first half of the seventies must've been wild!

          The picture was taken at the Balaton in Hungary, I worked a bit on the colours and reversed them.

          We thought of the Song either as an Intro to a song or an Interlude. It could lead over well to a groovy part with more beats (maybe some percussion even). We recorded another song which is missing some detail work and a vocal recording session. That has more a funky groove and also a 70s feel (I love the Clavinet!). Next project will be a bit more Ambient with a folk touch in it. We're still working out how to create nice drones...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by micheronfire View Post
            Thanks to all of you, glad you like it!

            eah I know the piano, and the intro, is unbalanced. I recorded it in stereo but with only on channel switched on. I realized that only later and I couldn't figure out how to put it on the other side... which can't be impossible given all the things you can do with your sounds in a DAW. It's probably just two clicks or something. I then didn't find it too bad somehow. For me it's more the shifted piano in the main section which is more problematic. I would pan it one side maybe, but leave it also a bit on the other. That's why I put the two Rhodes layers more on the right. Actually, they're panning from the left to the right in the first half of the main part. The intro is actually one note of the piano section, reversed and timestretched. That's why it's also only on one side.

            The keys are all improvised. So it's sometimes that some unexpected note may enter but you know how it is, while working on the song you listen to it again and again and then it becomes somehow part of the song. I also like some dissonances from time to time. Actually, I also find it not too bad if some percussion is a bit out of time. If it's still grooving... can add to the character of a song.

            To the jazz fusion thing... I love that stuff. I'm a huge Santana fan, especially of that jazz rock phase of his (my favourite album is Caravanserai). I'm also into chick Corea, Mahavishnu Orchestra and all that stuff. I agree, some great music from that period! Also listened to a lot of Steely Dan the last months. To live in the first half of the seventies must've been wild!

            The picture was taken at the Balaton in Hungary, I worked a bit on the colours and reversed them.

            We thought of the Song either as an Intro to a song or an Interlude. It could lead over well to a groovy part with more beats (maybe some percussion even). We recorded another song which is missing some detail work and a vocal recording session. That has more a funky groove and also a 70s feel (I love the Clavinet!). Next project will be a bit more Ambient with a folk touch in it. We're still working out how to create nice drones...
            Yeah, I was born in '58, growing up in the sixties and seventies, I got exposed to a lot of great music.. sadly some of it has passed out of the cultural milieau, but other great things have come along in the meantime- John Petrucci and Tony Levin of Dream Theatre and Liquid Tension Experiment, for example.

            https://metapop.com/sonic-bodhi
            https://www.youtube.com/user/SonicBodhi1
            https://sonicbodhi.bandcamp.com/
            https://hearthis.at/sonic-bodhi-iw/

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            • #7
              Oh yeah, I love LTE! Sure, there is great music! Also a lot of good Jazz fusion as well, Snarky Puppy and the likes. And luckily you have access to the back catalogue of all published music easily nowadays I just read somewhere "I hope the next big trend in music is talent" and I'm not desperate that this will come true!

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