Binaural recording/mixing

[Tolubai]

Would like to know who among you uses the prozess of binaural recording/mixing, or uses a Plugin for binaural panner simulation.
I haven't used it so far and I'm not familiar with the appliance of this process but I'm planning to try it in the next future.
In my opinion this kind of panning could create a more realistic atmosphere and deeper impression for the listener also in Ambient and Electronic tracks.
But of course the listener has to use headphones to benefit from this kind of recording/mixing.
There are several examples on youtube to get an impression.

Whats your opinion about this matter? Could it also be an advantage for music that's predominantly produced
in an electronic way?

[Xalpheon]

I really think that more people should start using binaural mixing techniques (like myself, I intend to learn the art as soon as I can). It really enhances the listening experience, and enables a whole new level of story-telling.
I enjoy binaural music a lot. It feels more real. Where I sometimes when listening music still feel my headphones, binaural-mixed music takes away the feeling of headphones cramping my ears completely (at least, a lot more).


Just listen to this:

[Tolubai]

Thanks for this amazing example of Binaural music. The track is great.
But I have to mention that there's a difference between Binaural Audio and Binaural Music/Beats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

There are some plugins like H3D by Longcat

or

Does anybody of you use one of these plugins or similar plugins?

[Tolubai]

Already tried two plugins.
The 'Spatial Audio Designer' seems to be the best solution,
because it 'enables the mixing and monitoring of any surround or 3D format with speakers or standard headphones on any DAW'

http://www.newaudiotechnology.com/

The longcat plugins seem to be no longer available.

In some weeks I will demonstrate you a track including this process.

[Mac of BIOnighT]

I'm experimenting with some free 3d vst's, but it'll be a while before I have a definitive recording, so I don't know how good the result will be, yet.
However, some time ago I was contacted by these guys http://www.terzoorecchio.com/ who use a double professional 3d system (a 6d system, basically), and we are now experimenting to see if it is possible to make a 6d recording of a sort of collection of my tracks. I hope it works, it'd be awesome

Here are some of their recordings:

a 3d recording of some paper

and a couple of recordings from the first experiment of binaural TV show:

By the way, the aural clues that give the impression of 3d sound can also be simulated with delays, reverbs and eq. The result is not quite the same, unless you work on it for quite a while, but they are very useful techniques when mixing.

[aoVI]

Back in my youthful days of recording, I took 2 traffic cones and 2 SM57's. I put the mics into the cones at the point, aimed to the base. I lay the cones on their sides, at about a 90 degree angle or so and recorded a couple of ambient sounds (Traffic passing, a thunderstorm approaching, a couple of friends having some beers at our bar).

While it was probably no where near the accuracy or quality of the systems mentioned in this thread, it did create a fascinating spacial effect that when listened to on headphones would place sounds around you quite nicely. The strongest, best realized recording was the one at our bar. You could follow people walking through the room with your ears.

Later, I will tell you how I used to mix multilayered recordings using the stems of plants as volume controls.

It's true.

[Mac of BIOnighT]

Odd, but when I was a kid I had these two very, very cheap philips microphones designed for home stereos (imagine something that costs 10 euros now, but with the technology of 35 years ago) and I recorded my family, various sounds etc and I can confirm what you just said, with an accurate placement of the mics those recordings were pretty damn close to 3D sound o__O

Stems of plants as volume controls???? This I gotta read!

[Tolubai]

Thanks for the feedback and these fantastic links.

Yes I also had in mind to create a binaural mic on my own - but prefer to choose the simpler way by using a plugin to be able
to apply this effect to my entire sound libraries.

@ Mac of BIOnighT: Which free vst did you use for it?
I installed the plugin by New Audio Technology but had some serios problems with my DAW so I gave up
on using it :(

@aoVI
using the traffic cones is a funny idea.. not exactly the anatomy of a human beeing but very creative

"..using the stems of plants as volume controls" - sounds really incredible and I'm looking forward
to read more about it.

[Tolubai]

Thanks for the feedback and these fantastic links.

Yes I also had in mind to create a binaural mic on my own - but prefer to choose the simpler way by using a plugin to be able
to apply this effect to my entire sound libraries.

@ Mac of BIOnighT: Which free vst did you use for it?
I installed the plugin by New Audio Technology but had some serios problems with my DAW so I gave up
on using it :(

@aoVI
using the traffic cones is a funny idea.. not exactly the anatomy of a human being but very creative

"..using the stems of plants as volume controls" - sounds really incredible and I'm looking forward
to read more about it.

[Mac of BIOnighT]

@ Mac of BIOnighT: Which free vst did you use for it?

I'm using Ambia http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewto...p?f=6&t=228923 a bit hard to configure, but very cool, and Space 360 http://www.kvraudio.com/product/space360-by-cytosonic very easy to use, and you can record all the movements in the room in real time via the record function of your daw.
Again, I'm not sure about the results, I have yet to finish the first track, so try for yourself.