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  • Well I record left and right channels separately, so you're saying the mixer I'm looking at won't send the effect on the individual channel output?
    What you said is correct. I am saying, if you have a stereo source signal , like your iPad synth or Korg Tritan plugged into two mono channels(L&R), each channel send will add to a mono send to your external HW effect unit. So,for me, that is not acceptable. For mono signals like guitar, there is no problems.

    I'm not a mixer salesman, so my knowledge is very limited. I can tell you that some types of mixer will give you an"insert'point at every mono channel and stereo pair. This will allow you to insert your HW effect devices into a single mixer channel.(or two channels if stereo)
    For example, the Behringer RX1202FX line mixer offers inserts. HERE
    My Roland line mixer is setup the same way, but has long been discontinued. Roland M-12E
    I patched these inserts into a 'normaled' patch panel so I have all my insert inputs and outputs and effects HW at my finger tips. Also, I can route anything anywhere.

    EDIT - Looking at the schematic of that Mackie ProFX12v2 I now see there are channel inserts !
    Last edited by annode; 12-01-2018, 11:35 AM.
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    • Originally posted by annode View Post
      What you said is correct. I am saying, if you have a stereo source signal , like your iPad synth or Korg Tritan plugged into two mono channels(L&R), each channel send will add to a mono send to your external HW effect unit. So,for me, that is not acceptable. For mono signals like guitar, there is no problems.

      I'm not a mixer salesman, so my knowledge is very limited. I can tell you that some types of mixer will give you an"insert'point at every mono channel and stereo pair. This will allow you to insert your HW effect devices into a single mixer channel.(or two channels if stereo)
      For example, the Behringer RX1202FX line mixer offers inserts. HERE
      My Roland line mixer is setup the same way, but has long been discontinued. Roland M-12E
      I patched these inserts into a 'normaled' patch panel so I have all my insert inputs and outputs and effects HW at my finger tips. Also, I can route anything anywhere.

      EDIT - Looking at the schematic of that Mackie ProFX12v2 I now see there are channel inserts !
      So is the Euro Rack what I would need to route to individual channels on the recorder? Or is it really meant to work the other way around, into a stereo mixdown deck? Or am I able to do it with the Mackie since there are channel inserts?
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      • So is the Euro Rack what I would need to route to individual channels on the recorder? Or is it really meant to work the other way around, into a stereo mixdown deck? Or am I able to do it with the Mackie since there are channel inserts?
        Take some time and let all this sink in. Think about it. If you have any questions after that, private message me.
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        • I posted this on Twitter earlier:-

          https://twitter.com/synkrotron/statu...73837790064642

          Getting there.......
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          • My setup. It's a mess, and acoustically not the best, (neither is monitor placement and angles..) but it works.

            I've got my Roland JD-Xi, Elektron Digitakt, Modal SKULPT, and Korg Monologue all hooked up via MIDI to be sequenced and clocked by the Squarp Pyramid, and the Monologue is on its own MIDI port and also feeds MIDI into the sequencer, acting as a master keyboard. The Roland JV-1080 isn't plugged in currently, though it is in the picture. It suddenly started gaving me MIDI errors so I was led to believe there was something wrong (not sure though).

            The audio connections are simple, everything goes into the mixer, which normally has the single mono send going to a reverb (pictured: TC Electronic M-One I got recently) which then is fed back into the mixer in stereo. The control room out goes to the monitors, and the main out to my Zoom H4n Pro digital recorder.

            I'm not really feeling the JV-1080, partially because it takes a lot of effort to program, but mostly as it takes up so much space.


            I do some light post-processing in the PC. :-)

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            • Originally posted by Endmire View Post
              My setup. It's a mess
              I dunno... I think it looks tidy enough. Looks like you can get your hands on everything

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              • Yeah, it's mostly the cables that are a little unstructured!

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                • Originally posted by Endmire View Post
                  Yeah, it's mostly the cables that are a little unstructured!
                  There is never a right way to run cables. Well, I suppose I try to keep power cables away from signal cables but it's not always possible.

                  You could try using cable ties to keep things in place.

                  I use cable ties to create looms when that suits. So, for instance, I have a loom of six audio cables running from my modular system to my audio interface and a four cable loom running between my HX effects unit and the audio interface. That really does help keep things a bit more organised behind the scenes.
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                  • Originally posted by Endmire View Post
                    My setup. It's a mess, and acoustically not the best, (neither is monitor placement and angles..) but it works.

                    I've got my Roland JD-Xi, Elektron Digitakt, Modal SKULPT, and Korg Monologue all hooked up via MIDI to be sequenced and clocked by the Squarp Pyramid, and the Monologue is on its own MIDI port and also feeds MIDI into the sequencer, acting as a master keyboard. The Roland JV-1080 isn't plugged in currently, though it is in the picture. It suddenly started gaving me MIDI errors so I was led to believe there was something wrong (not sure though).

                    The audio connections are simple, everything goes into the mixer, which normally has the single mono send going to a reverb (pictured: TC Electronic M-One I got recently) which then is fed back into the mixer in stereo. The control room out goes to the monitors, and the main out to my Zoom H4n Pro digital recorder.

                    I'm not really feeling the JV-1080, partially because it takes a lot of effort to program, but mostly as it takes up so much space.


                    I do some light post-processing in the PC. :-)
                    I know what you mean about the mess with cables.. I am currently in the process of cleaning, and reorganizing. About to start assembling a new workstation desk to support my dual-monitor setup. Right now it is a complete cluster-f***, LoL. Your setup looks relatively clean and accessible though.

                    synkrotron you can buy a cable octopus or two, which is what I bought for my efx rack, and it's color-coded.
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                    • I'm definitely considering the approach of bundling cables together where possible I don't really have many 'lanes' of many cables though, mainly the one running behind it all.

                      Oh and I need to clean, dust is a fierce thing. ''they'll be back, and in greater numbers'' <-- the dust particles.

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                      • Originally posted by Endmire View Post
                        I'm definitely considering the approach of bundling cables together where possible I don't really have many 'lanes' of many cables though, mainly the one running behind it all.

                        Oh and I need to clean, dust is a fierce thing. ''they'll be back, and in greater numbers'' <-- the dust particles.
                        When I fuss about neatness or cleanliness it gives me an excuse to avoid working with the gear.
                        With me, sometimes the search for structure is the enemy.
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                        • This is the latest update to my studio setup- I bought a new workstation desk. Setting it up was a bear, required a lot of cleaning and disassembling the old hutch style desk, then I decided to assemble the new one in place- not a lot of room to work!, but I finally got it accomplished. This is a nice sturdy workstation that should last a good long time. I hope! LoL. As you can see, I have reduced the amount of clutter in the corner, and it doesn't seem quite so 'claustrophobic' anymore. But who knows how long it will stay that way?

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                          Last edited by Sonic Bodhi; 01-12-2019, 12:19 AM.
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                          • That sure is a nice looking workstation Sonic Bodhi Nice and tidy looking too.

                            I like the glass top to it

                            I would probably still want to tidy up some of them cables. Always a nightmare, but I at least like to hide my spaghetti away if I can.

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                            • Originally posted by Endmire View Post
                              I'm definitely considering the approach of bundling cables together where possible I don't really have many 'lanes' of many cables though, mainly the one running behind it all.

                              Oh and I need to clean, dust is a fierce thing. ''they'll be back, and in greater numbers'' <-- the dust particles.
                              I'm looking at your picture, thinking, "what would I do?"

                              I guess the big difference between my setup and yours is I do not have a mixer and everything is routed directly to my 2x OCTA-CAPTURE units. And all those cables run to the back of what ever surface they are on and then round to the back of my little rack the the OCTA-CAPTURE in.

                              Yours is a "DAWless" setup so that is another big difference. I guess you need access to everything so you can either lay it all out flat, as you have done, or you could spread it out over a wider surface, but I realise that this takes up too much room. Another option would be to stack stuff. This would enable you to run all those cables "under" and "behind" things. Stacking your gear also means that you are not stretching over stuff so much.


                              Anyways, just a few off the cuff thoughts from me Endmire , nothing to be taken seriously

                              cheers

                              andy
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                              • Originally posted by synkrotron View Post

                                Yours is a "DAWless" setup so that is another big difference. I guess you need access to everything so you can either lay it all out flat, as you have done, or you could spread it out over a wider surface, but I realise that this takes up too much room. Another option would be to stack stuff. This would enable you to run all those cables "under" and "behind" things. Stacking your gear also means that you are not stretching over stuff so much.

                                Anyways, just a few off the cuff thoughts from me Endmire , nothing to be taken seriously

                                cheers

                                andy
                                Yeah, I've also considered that, and as you can see, I've stacked the rack mount stuff ;) without an actual rack, as I thought that was unnecessary in my case. And as I'm actually thinking of replacing both of the units and using guitar pedals (which are very pricey sadly...), I may soon be without rack gear anyway.

                                Another problem is that I can't (don't want to at least) stack things too high as that will block the airflow from the monitors. I also enjoy working while standing up, so maybe I should just raise the monitors and use headphones while sitting down.

                                I don't want to hurt my back long term either, maybe having the stuff at an angle could help prevent that, as it could result in less hunching over?

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