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  • Aïma Dust
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    You'r right, they are a good couple. As I said, Live + APC 40 is more a meta-instrument for direct playing, and I had hope to use it for beatless music .. but always, Live "pushes" me to make beats and so I derive of my project. I had also used it for random selection of the clips (many clips) : https://espaces-sonores.bandcamp.com/album/aleatori

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  • GaryG
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    funnily enough I use Live (intro) and Reaper. Reaper is definitely my goto DAW but I enjoy the 'change of scenery' that I get with Live, maybe when I want to make something more beat driven or loop based. In fact I probably use it most often as a fancy drum machine, importing the loops into Reaper for arrangement etc.

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  • Aïma Dust
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    Originally posted by Aïma Dust View Post
    My choice goes finally to the best integration with MIDI controller ... I use now Live with an APC40mkII
    No no no ... I had try to use Live several times (due to his perfect integration with controllers) but once and for all, i will use Reaper, so nice and familiar.
    The controller ? The little Nocturn matches great for controlling the plugs .. I dont need the mix functions, and feedback on leds is essential for me ... so maybe I think to try the X-touch (?). If you have any information ...

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  • ablaut
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    Interesting question! I would guess a different workflow would likely influence what you produce, unless you set out with a very clear idea of what you want, which happens very seldom to me.

    On the other hand, I really only have experience with Reaper.

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  • Ahornberg
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    Yes, different DAWs tend to lead to slightly different sound/music.

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  • Aïma Dust
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    My choice goes finally to the best integration with MIDI controller : with a perfect integrated system of DAW + SOFT INSTRUMENTS + controller, the sensation is great and very inspiring for improvisation.
    Surely, I was happy with energyXT but I manipulated it only with the mouse. My other favorite is Reaper : very powerful, especially when you make your own interface (with spend of a certain time), but there is "always" a problem with MIDI controller. I think to continue (maybe ?) with Reaper for finalize tracks and albums thanks to its precision, but for creating sounds and music, I use now Live with an APC40mkII (, a while ago, I used Live without controller). This integrated system is more a big meta-instrument as a compilation of individual soft and gear.
    The right question is : have the DAW any influence of the music we produce ? I think, with energy XT, my music was "happy", with Reaper, darker, and with Live, quieter. But I'm not sure

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  • seismic1
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    I think I see a couple of crashes per year with 2.7 on Win7 (64-bit). I used to see a lot more than that with 2.5 and 2.6 on WinXP running on a much less powerful (and much older) machine. I haven't used version 3 much, so can't really comment about that.

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  • GaryG
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    I've got an EnergyXT license somewhere, always liked it's immediacy but found the later versions unstable. I see it's still for sale, €24, not a bad deal if you're aware of it's limitations/lack of development(?)

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  • seismic1
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    I'm still using EnergyXT (it will be 10 years in December). When I first bought it, I used it as a normal sequencer. I only used the Modular view occasionally for the first couple of years, but as I became more accustomed to using it, it became an integral part of my "workflow". I can hear a definite shift in the style of my tracks since then. Coincidence? I doubt it.

    Now for the bad news - 32-bit only

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  • Guest
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    Originally posted by GaryG View Post

    I still have my Limited license (open to offers if anyone wants a cheap upgrade to 10... ) but found I always ended up making the same kind of music with it, don't know if it's my lack of imagination or if it pushes you in certain directions...

    I'm feeling restless again,a couple of times recently I've bailed on a session because I just got caught up in Reapers mechanics; if you don't use it's actions etc regularly then they're easy to forget. I think I've had more fun recently messing around with mulab and Live, wondering if I'd be better served with something that maybe doesn't get in my way so much (even though that's what I always claimed Reaper didn't do...)

    I'm also definitely thinking in more 'non-linear' terms too, anyone here use more modular hosts regularly?
    "getting caught up ion Reapers mechanics" is the major disadvantage of Reaper for me as well. For example I just got back from a field trip and transferring recordings from my recorder to my desktop was not working because of Reapers arbitrary default project length of 10 minutes. That is found under "advanced" project settings and over-rides other settings to do with media item length. And it seems to get reset back to 10 mins every time I open a new projecc even though I have set it to "off" as a project default. I wasted quite a bit of time figuring that out Tuesday night. So now I have to remembe to check that setting every time I start a project - although I have no doubt an update will eventually fix it, it will also get broken some time in the future as well.

    On the upside re modularity - using Reaper's free item positioning and items as containers of music plus instrument plus fx can be useful

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  • GaryG
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    Originally posted by Makrotulpa View Post
    Reason 10 for maybe ambient chill bedtime music.
    I still have my Limited license (open to offers if anyone wants a cheap upgrade to 10... ) but found I always ended up making the same kind of music with it, don't know if it's my lack of imagination or if it pushes you in certain directions...

    I'm feeling restless again,a couple of times recently I've bailed on a session because I just got caught up in Reapers mechanics; if you don't use it's actions etc regularly then they're easy to forget. I think I've had more fun recently messing around with mulab and Live, wondering if I'd be better served with something that maybe doesn't get in my way so much (even though that's what I always claimed Reaper didn't do...)

    I'm also definitely thinking in more 'non-linear' terms too, anyone here use more modular hosts regularly?

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  • Makrotulpa
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    In the 2000s I was Audiomulch with Reaper for mixing. Then I became a hardware nerd with occasional Ableton and Reaper user. In 2010 I became a Logic user, then I returned to Ableton but went to Tracktion for mixing and Usine for synthesis. Now I'm back to hardware + Reaper and I just got a cheap copy of Reason 10 for maybe ambient chill bedtime music.

    Time marches on
    Blink then it's gone
    Make no mistake
    It's vanishing

    The clocks are overwound
    The bells don't make a sound
    They used to toll for me
    I guess my time is now

    You get up and sleep
    And go to the bar
    But how long have I been
    Going on and on and on

    It's too late now
    No turning back
    Atomic clock
    The skys turn black

    No daylight savings, now
    Regret the time you slept
    It's one third of your life
    And precious minutes left

    You get up and sleep
    And go to the bar
    But how long have I been
    Going on and on and on

    - Foetus
    Last edited by Makrotulpa; 03-05-2018, 12:57 AM.

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  • Chaz
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    Originally posted by phoenstorm View Post
    Always an interesting issue to ponder. I feel like some things in ableton might not be ideal, but just reading the features of bitwig didn't really pique my interest, now if I were starting out today ...that would be something different altogether. So my daw thoughts mostly go in circles: logic and apple are completely out of the question, so is reason...I always thought Cubase was too expensive. That leaves S1, bitwig...and reaper, which I own, but use only rarely. I'll keep tabs on bitwig & studio 1, but so far, not enough benefits for me to warrant the opportunity costs of a platform change. Any FL ambient heads here?

    Tom, I guess there's some kind of NDA in place, but can you be more specific as to which problems in the betaforum turned you off live9? I heard a few things concerning obsolete & obscure code...but so far that hasn't really impacted my everyday work...will be interesting to see whether ableton manages to develop the core of their application any further.
    Yes I'm an FL head. And loving it. I find FL very easy to use, the interface is quite logical and everything is only a click or two away from the main screen. It does just everything all the more expensive DAW's do. And it comes with a large number of great synths and instruments to start with. From what I've heard the piano roll is superior to any other DAW. Very easy to quickly compose. Also the ability to use ghost notes and "trace over" other channels in the piano roll, which is incredibly useful. Also since I don't know my scales all that well, I can have a muted channel with a specific scale so I can see it as ghost notes in another. Then I just "trace over". Automation is very extensive, pretty much any knob can be automated in any instrument or channel.

    Fl Studio is not as suited to live recording compared to say Pro-Tools or Ableton. Its very much aimed at electronic music production, so perfect for my needs. If you do more live stuff then yeah, FL probably wouldn't do. And for some reason FL has often been considered to be limited to production of electronic music, which I can say is completely false :razz:

    Hope all that makes sense:razz:

    I wouldn't want to use any other DAW. I find it's very quick for me to use. But it's the only DAW I've really invested a lot time in so what can I say :P. If you haven't tried it, I suggest downloading the demo.
    Oh and you get free lifetime updates! So pay once and you get the next iterations for nothing.

    https://www.image-line.com/flstudio/

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  • Thomas Helzle
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    Thank you very much aoVI :blush:
    That is encouraging :-)

    Cheers,

    Tom

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  • aoVI
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    Originally posted by Thomas Helzle View Post
    When I read my post again I felt I maybe went a bit overboard... :blush:

    Sorry if anybody should feel overwhelmed :-)

    Cheers,

    Tom
    Both here and at KVR I find your detailed posts very well thought out and clear. I am grateful that you are one of those who share your experience and knowledge freely.

    We are lucky to have you as part of our community here.

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